Post by Gil on Feb 9, 2011 21:21:33 GMT -6
Those who were online a bit ago know I made a case against Susan and it was discussed somewhat. I'm going to paste the log of that chat here so that we can have a place to discuss it on the board.
Gil Eyal 5:12 pm
Does anyone think Susan herself is scummy?
Sergey 5:13 pm
A bit, yes.
mmg1harriet 5:13 pm
I like Susan but she is vague
Randi Russell 5:13 pm
I do think she's scummy in her contiually not posting responses on the board after telling me she will.
Scott 5:13 pm
Maybe once you got the group set up, the mason role is only as helpful as being the reason for the group forming, but getting a group of town working together is a strong point in and of itself.
Sergey 5:13 pm
Right, Randi.
Randi Russell 5:13 pm
She's done that twice to me already <3
Scott 5:13 pm
Has anyone seen susan today so far?
Sergey 5:13 pm
And she's being mischevious as well (in relation to Sincerity).
Randi Russell 5:14 pm
She did it once when she said she'd post a response to my post about the AIM Invisiblitty thing, and she did it when I asked her if she was writing a response to the questions to her on the board, because I wanted to know the answers as well
Hal Benjamin 5:14 pm
I'm back, everybody.
Randi Russell 5:14 pm
and when I talked to her and tried to get a straight answer of WHY she was playing the gossip game, I didnt really get one.
Dino Sordentini 5:16 pm
RANDIIII
who are your top 3 suspects right nowww?
Im curious!!!!
Randi Russell 5:18 pm
<3, well, actually, my top two suspects atm are Eddie and Charlie, just based on comments they've made on the board, and especially with the comments they made in response to the Sincerity thing.
Charlie Chen (mmg1charlie) has left the room. 5:18 pm
Dino Sordentini 5:18 pm
So you think Nadia and Sincerity are town?
Randi Russell 5:18 pm
I'm also a little suspicious of Susan because of all the stuff I've posted above, but I havent decided if she's just a bad player or if she's scum <3
Randi Russell 5:19 pm
I think Sincerity is town. I'm not sure about Nadia because I havent seen enough of her!
Dino Sordentini 5:19 pm
heh it took you a while to respond.
Randi Russell 5:19 pm
LOL I'm a slow typer
mmg1harriet 5:19 pm
Why do you think sincerity is town?
Dino Sordentini 5:19 pm
almost like you were contemplating what to say XD
Or you just typed slow.
that could be the case.
Randi Russell 5:19 pm
I think she's town because of the way she responded to my accusation of her.
I thought it was very emotional
Sergey 5:20 pm
She's an experienced player, though.
Randi Russell 5:20 pm
because of what she said about me having to talk to her first
mmg1harriet 5:20 pm
Sergey 5:20 pm
She'd know that'd be the town move to do.
mmg1harriet 5:20 pm
I just have a bad feeling about sincerity
Randi Russell 5:21 pm
and then her blowing up at Sergey and Eddie. It just seemed less calculated and more emotional
than anything.
mmg1harriet 5:21 pm
She hasn't contributed much of anything
Sergey 5:21 pm
Then we see it completely different, Randi.
mmg1harriet 5:21 pm
Does anyone else talk to her in private?
Besides hester?
Sergey 5:21 pm
I see someone who is very calculative in speaking and very experienced.
Randi Russell 5:22 pm
the only time i've talked to Sincerity in private was the night I posted my accuasation about her
other than that, no
mmg1harriet 5:22 pm
That to me is weird
Sergey 5:22 pm
And a few blips on the radar that show her being totally not calculative and experienced.
That, in a sense, leads me to believe it is in fact calculative.
mmg1harriet 5:22 pm
It seems like NO ONE talks to her
I personally dont see her in chat
Gil Eyal 5:23 pm
I talked to her
Scott 5:23 pm
Wait, you're saying she's experienced because she doesn't seem experienced?
Dino Sordentini 5:23 pm
sergey you said i did something similar to nadia
Sergey 5:23 pm
She says she's experienced.
Dino Sordentini 5:23 pm
that's a lie.
Sergey 5:23 pm
It is?
How so? The going off on Angelique?
Dino Sordentini 5:23 pm
I went after Angelique because she was anti-town and refused to answer questions.
Gil Eyal 5:23 pm
Oh
I have a semicase on susan
tinypaste.com/3f287f
Dino Sordentini 5:24 pm
She went afetr Angelique because of her flavor. Nadia started the fight between teh two. She semi-randomly told Angelique to jump into a well with little to no provocation
Gil Eyal 5:24 pm
It's taken from a chat log (all of the lines are me) which is why the format is weird. I just edited out the lines so it doesn't go into the 8 line limit
Dino Sordentini 5:24 pm
The little being Angelique just having an arrogant vibe.
Sergey 5:24 pm
She gave off a very arrogant vibe.
And nearly everyone was poking fun at her.
Dino Sordentini 5:24 pm
that's not enough to 'demand' that she jump in a 'well'
and then start a huge fight
if you read the logs
you'll see how random it was.
being honest, I wasn't the first one to notice this.
Sergey 5:25 pm
I was there, I believe.
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
It was brought to my attention.
Gil Eyal 5:25 pm
Hey
Randi Russell 5:25 pm
But that had nothing to do with the game, Dino
Gil Eyal 5:25 pm
People
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
exactly.
Randi Russell 5:25 pm
that was them being in characters
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
My reason for voting did
Gil Eyal 5:25 pm
Did anyone read the tinypaste I just posted?
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
hers didnt
Randi Russell 5:25 pm
I'm reading it now Gil <3
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
reading it now
mmg1harriet 5:25 pm
I did
Sergey 5:25 pm
Eh, my fault then, I was mistaken.
I still don't find that suspicious though.
Dino Sordentini 5:26 pm
what's mafiascum?
Hal Benjamin 5:27 pm
It seems pretty obvious to me?
Hal Benjamin 5:27 pm
Another Mafia game?
Dino Sordentini 5:27 pm
oh is it? kay.
Scott 5:27 pm
Another site to play mafia at. Not fond of it personally.
Dino Sordentini 5:27 pm
never heard of it before.
my bad, broskies.
Sergey 5:28 pm
You're suggesting this was all calculative on her part, then, Gil.
Gil Eyal 5:28 pm
Her opening thread?
That would be calculated by her regardless of her affiliation
Sergey 5:29 pm
Okay.
Sergey 5:29 pm
Does anyone know who she is suspicious of?
mmg1harriet 5:29 pm
OKay, Randi so you are not suspicious of Sincerity based on her emotional response
Do you have any other reason than that?
Gil Eyal 5:30 pm
Gil Eyal (4:39:20 PM):Hey Susan - have you spoken with John yet?Susan Appleton (4:39:30 PM):just the tiniest bit.Gil Eyal (4:39:54 PM):Do you have a read of any kind on Xaric?Susan Appleton (4:40:44 PM):not really, kid.Susan Appleton (4:40:52 PM):I think most of what we talked about was my thread.Susan Appleton (4:41:37 PM):honestly, kid, I don't know much about them, who they suspect, anything.
Gil Eyal (4:42:12 PM):What do you think about the people that defended Angelique?Susan Appleton (4:42:41 PM):I think they have a point - never seen a spy try the "Major Bitch" strategy before.
Gil Eyal (4:43:44 PM):What do you think about Nadia's reaction then?Susan Appleton (4:45:44 PM):Not... much? not sure I follow here.
Hopefully that was 8 or less
I eyeballed it
Randi Russell 5:31 pm
Yes, of course I did Harriet. It was the going invisible on AIM thing! I brought that up in chats several times and then made the post about it
Sergey 5:31 pm
That was all she gave you?
Gil Eyal 5:31 pm
No, that was all she gave me in that convo
Hester Zimmerman (mmg1hester) has entered the room. 5:31 pm
Gil Eyal 5:31 pm
I asked her about John, Xaric, people defending Angelique, and Nadia
and got . . . pretty much nothing on any of them
Only thing she did was when I asked her about Nadia
Hester Zimmerman 5:31 pm
back. who's that/
/
Sergey 5:31 pm
Susan.
Hester Zimmerman 5:31 pm
thanks.
Gil Eyal 5:31 pm
she suggested I talk to Sincerity
Sergey 5:32 pm
Gil's case on her, Hester: tinypaste.com/3f287f
Gil Eyal 5:32 pm
Gil Eyal (8:09:36 PM):Did anyone else react strangely to Nadia?Susan Appleton (8:10:32 PM):not that I know kid - I know if you're suspicious of nadia you should be talkin' to sincerity though kid.
Sergey 5:32 pm
What?
That's odd.
mmg1harriet 5:32 pm
Let me paste some of mine from susan
Hal Benjamin 5:32 pm
I have completely lost track of this conversation.
Might be as good a time as any to call it a night.
Hester Zimmerman 5:33 pm
Okay. Gil, that's what bugs me about Susan. (And Sincerity, though to a lesser extent.)
SUS.
Hal Benjamin 5:33 pm
Good night, everybody!
Hester Zimmerman 5:33 pm
(Stirring up shit.)
Gil Eyal 5:33 pm
HE'S GONE - LYNCH HIM
Hester Zimmerman 5:33 pm
Goodnight, Hal.
Gil Eyal 5:33 pm
oh wiat
Hal Benjamin 5:33 pm
Hah!
Hal Benjamin 5:33 pm
I don't lynch easily.
Buh-bye.
Hester Zimmerman 5:34 pm
Soft scotmans claim?
Hal Benjamin (mmg1hal) has left the room. 5:34 pm
Hester Zimmerman 5:34 pm
Damn, something is really wrong w/ my keyboard.
Sergey 5:34 pm
So nobody knows who Susan may vote for this round?
Scott 5:35 pm
Not offhand.
Could always ask next time she comes on.
Randi Russell 5:35 pm
I do know that she isnt voting for Sincerity. I'm looking at my convos on her and she did tell me that Sincerity was town.
Randi Russell 5:35 pm
mmg1randi (5:35:35 PM):That's why it confuses me why you told Sincerity that I was making a post listing points against her when I specifically told you that I was only making a post about the AIM debacle <3 MMG1Susan (5:36:14 PM):because I remember askin' you to make a post on her. Also thought she's town, to be honest - but I still wanted her to reply to the suspicions in public.
Victoire Pierre (mmg1victoire) has entered the room. 5:35 pm
Victoire Pierre 5:35 pm
Bonjour!
Gil Eyal 5:36 pm
Do you want the last 10 minutes of chat?
Victoire Pierre 5:36 pm
Euh, oui oui?
Randi Russell 5:36 pm
Well, actually, now that I see that, Susan says that she THOUGHT Sincerity was town.
mmg1harriet 5:38 pm
Hester, did Susan ever start a discussion with you?
About sincerity?
Hester Zimmerman 5:40 pm
Harriet, I believe so but I'll go check my chats and tell you for sure.
Bartok Presch (mmg1bartok) has entered the room. 5:40 pm
Bartok Presch 5:40 pm
Greetings lovely peoples!
Victoire Pierre 5:41 pm
Bonjour Bartok
Bartok Presch 5:41 pm
A dead room it would seem?
Victoire Pierre 5:41 pm
I think I may 'ave killed it when I walked in
Bartok Presch 5:41 pm
Well you are quite stunning
Hester Zimmerman 5:42 pm
Susan asked me if I told Rachel about my suspicions of sincerity.
Victoire Pierre 5:42 pm
Euh... Merci, Bartok.
Hester Zimmerman 5:42 pm
That was unsolicited.
Bartok Presch 5:42 pm
Why would she want to know if you had told Rachel?
mmg1harriet 5:42 pm
[19:30] mmg1harriet: Susie, you dont seem like the type of person who would have a hard time defending herself
[19:31] Susan Appleton: don't mean I won't defend myself, just means I take my sweet time writing.
[19:31] mmg1harriet: Have people been jumping on you?
[19:31] Susan Appleton: talked to Randi and I think a bit with Hester about it.
[19:32] Susan Appleton: but both those discussions were started by me.
[19:52] mmg1harriet: Did you talk to Sincerity in private chat?
[19:52] Susan Appleton: yeah.
[19:52] Susan Appleton: only supposed to show like... 8 lines.
Hester Zimmerman 5:43 pm
She also admitted that she told Sincerity I was suspicious of her.
Bartok, sorry, just saw your question.
mmg1harriet 5:44 pm
Randi you were mentioned there too
Hester Zimmerman 5:45 pm
The context of this is she asked me if I'd talked to Rachel at all yet, and asked me what my take on her was.
Susan Appleton (8:55:04 PM):question for you - did you tell her you were suspicious of anyone?Susan Appleton (8:55:11 PM):tell her a bout sincerity at all?Hester Zimmerman (8:55:15 PM):Rachel? I don't think so but I'll go check my chat log.Hester Zimmerman (8:56:05 PM):Nope.Susan Appleton (8:56:28 PM):I think...Susan Appleton (8:56:45 PM):I wish I knew she was new at this sort of thing kid.
Randi Russell 5:46 pm
Yeah, Susan started asking me questions about Sincerity, and then I started to talk to her about the questions asked of her. But she wasnt really responsive about it.
mmg1harriet 5:46 pm
Thats weird, Hester
What the hell does that mean
Bartok Presch 5:46 pm
Susan seems to ask a lot without giving much in return it would seem
mmg1harriet 5:47 pm
This is what I find odd about Susan.
Bartok Presch 5:47 pm
but a couple people are guilty of that, or worse, not even asking questions
Randi Russell 5:47 pm
Like I said, she didnt really give me answers about the questions I asked about why she told Sincerity stuff and then asked me if I talked to Sincerity
mmg1harriet 5:47 pm
She and I were questioned about the same exact thing by Hester
She never once talked to me about it
even when I tried
Dino Sordentini 5:48 pm
Did I miss anything? We have voting tomorrow and people are all suspecting different people.
It seems Sergey is pushing a sincerity lynch
sincerity is pushing a nadia lynch
gil is pushing a susan lynch
Sergey 5:48 pm
What do you mean by pushing?
Dino Sordentini 5:48 pm
proposin' foo'
Sergey 5:48 pm
Okay.
Bartok Presch 5:49 pm
awww, sergey and dino are finally getting married
Sergey 5:49 pm
Yes, I am proposing.
Gil Eyal 5:49 pm
There is a difference between proposing a lynch and pushing one, to be honest
Bartok Presch 5:49 pm
I thought that was illegal in america
Sergey 5:49 pm
That's what I was thinking, Gil.
It tripped me up a bit.
Dino Sordentini 5:49 pm
proposing to make bartok's kneecaps charms on some black dude's bling?
Gil Eyal 5:49 pm
pushing implies that you are trying to get that person lynched. I haven't voted for Susan - I wanted to propose it for discussion.
mmg1harriet 5:49 pm
I can go either way on any of these people
Sergey 5:49 pm
*smirks*
Hester Zimmerman 5:49 pm
I'm considering Susan too.
Bartok Presch 5:50 pm
Dino, you don't have to deny it so forcefully. We all know how you feel about Sergey.
Hester Zimmerman 5:50 pm
LOL...Harriet, that sounds bad.
mmg1harriet 5:50 pm
Hester did you see what she about responding to the post abot her
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
Yeah Harriet I know how you feel
Hester Zimmerman 5:50 pm
No, where was it?
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
you just wanna bandwagon one of these scummy people
but that's kinda scummy
even though it's not
Hester Zimmerman 5:50 pm
On the board? Haven't read since I left, going to look.
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
just the wording makes it seeem sooo baaad XD
mmg1harriet 5:50 pm
No
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
anyway Bartok I haven't forgotten
mmg1harriet 5:50 pm
on here
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
your scummy soft-claim
Hester Zimmerman 5:51 pm
Bartok softclaimed? What?
Okay, Harriet, no. When and how did she respond?
Sergey 5:51 pm
Really?
Bartok Presch (mmg1bartok) has left the room. 5:51 pm
Bartok Presch (mmg1bartok) has entered the room. 5:51 pm
Dino Sordentini 5:51 pm
Long time ago. He randomly brought up the idea of a role needing another role to activate its power in defense of Scott during his role-fiashing trip
Hester Zimmerman 5:51 pm
Oh.
mmg1harriet 5:51 pm
[19:30] mmg1harriet: Susie, you dont seem like the type of person who would have a hard time defending herself
[19:31] Susan Appleton: don't mean I won't defend myself, just means I take my sweet time writing.
[19:31] mmg1harriet: Have people been jumping on you?
[19:31] Susan Appleton: talked to Randi and I think a bit with Hester about it.
[19:32] Susan Appleton: but both those discussions were started by me.
[19:52] mmg1harriet: Did you talk to Sincerity in private chat?
[19:52] Susan Appleton: yeah.
[19:52] Susan Appleton: only supposed to show like... 8 lines.
Top
Dino Sordentini 5:51 pm
I pressed him into admitting a soft-claim but he said he would never do something like that with a murder coming up
Sergey 5:51 pm
And I think that Sincerity's alignment is indicative of Susan's, for me at least.
mmg1harriet 5:51 pm
There was ALOT more that she said
Exactly Sergey
Gil Eyal 5:52 pm
Wait
Wait
Dino Sordentini 5:52 pm
Sergey why are their alignments linked?
mmg1harriet 5:52 pm
If one is bad, both are
Gil Eyal 5:52 pm
I disagree
Dino Sordentini 5:52 pm
I musta missed that.
Bartok Presch 5:52 pm
I did not "randomly bring it up." I said that rarely there are such situations, and I never "admitted" a soft-claim
Gil Eyal 5:52 pm
Let me rephrase
I do not believe that if Sincerity is town
Susan is town
Sergey 5:52 pm
While I believe that Sincerity is scum, if she comes up as town, I think Susan is scum.
Dino Sordentini 5:52 pm
Bartok that's why it's soft-claiming
if you admitted it
it would be claiming
doi
Sergey why is that?
Sergey 5:52 pm
Or at least my suspicion against Susan heightens.
Bartok Presch 5:53 pm
I did not soft claim. I brought up a possibility for Scott's scenario.
Hester Zimmerman 5:53 pm
I think I'm voting Susan this round.
Sergey 5:53 pm
Because they're so linked -- Susan is causing trouble by going behind people's back, causing mischief with her, etc.
Dino Sordentini 5:53 pm
So?
mmg1harriet 5:53 pm
What do you think about that Hester?
She wrote alot more like that
Really weird
Dino Sordentini 5:53 pm
I don't see hwo the two's alignments are linked.
If they were both scum
I would hope they wouldn't align themselves with each other so prominently.
Sergey 5:54 pm
Susan is one of the few who finds Sincerity complete town.
Dino Sordentini 5:54 pm
but I wouldn't put it against them.
out of the two
I think Susan seems more scummy than Sincerity.
Hester Zimmerman 5:54 pm
@ Harriet:all of her interactions are weird. She initiates chat a lot but it's all either completely theory, or what I call shit-stirring.
Sergey 5:54 pm
Really?
Dino Sordentini 5:54 pm
but that just makes me think Sincerity is scum, more, because of that XD
Sergey 5:54 pm
I don't. I don't see enough of a case against Susan, but then again, I have my own against Sincerity and I'll go down fighting that she is scum.
Bartok Presch 5:55 pm
So the main reason Susan is suspected is because she asks odd questions, then reports to Sincerity, yes?
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
if they had roles
Sergey 5:55 pm
They aren't masons.
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
that allowed them to know each other's innocence
Sergey 5:55 pm
We've been over this.
They are not masons.
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
they don't have to be masons.
Sergey 5:55 pm
What else would they be?
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
roles in this game are custom.
Hester Zimmerman 5:55 pm
She came to me last night and complained to me about Chuck's post.
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
they could be family
Sergey 5:55 pm
You can't speculate on roles like that this early.
Hester Zimmerman 5:55 pm
So I asked her why are you bringing this to me instead of him?
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
or lesbien
you never know
Sergey 5:56 pm
We have no idea what they are.
Dino Sordentini 5:56 pm
I had a similar role
way back
where we'd have to vote the same
Hester Zimmerman 5:56 pm
If we had lover s in the game you think they would know who
Gil Eyal 5:12 pm
Does anyone think Susan herself is scummy?
Sergey 5:13 pm
A bit, yes.
mmg1harriet 5:13 pm
I like Susan but she is vague
Randi Russell 5:13 pm
I do think she's scummy in her contiually not posting responses on the board after telling me she will.
Scott 5:13 pm
Maybe once you got the group set up, the mason role is only as helpful as being the reason for the group forming, but getting a group of town working together is a strong point in and of itself.
Sergey 5:13 pm
Right, Randi.
Randi Russell 5:13 pm
She's done that twice to me already <3
Scott 5:13 pm
Has anyone seen susan today so far?
Sergey 5:13 pm
And she's being mischevious as well (in relation to Sincerity).
Randi Russell 5:14 pm
She did it once when she said she'd post a response to my post about the AIM Invisiblitty thing, and she did it when I asked her if she was writing a response to the questions to her on the board, because I wanted to know the answers as well
Hal Benjamin 5:14 pm
I'm back, everybody.
Randi Russell 5:14 pm
and when I talked to her and tried to get a straight answer of WHY she was playing the gossip game, I didnt really get one.
Dino Sordentini 5:16 pm
RANDIIII
who are your top 3 suspects right nowww?
Im curious!!!!
Randi Russell 5:18 pm
<3, well, actually, my top two suspects atm are Eddie and Charlie, just based on comments they've made on the board, and especially with the comments they made in response to the Sincerity thing.
Charlie Chen (mmg1charlie) has left the room. 5:18 pm
Dino Sordentini 5:18 pm
So you think Nadia and Sincerity are town?
Randi Russell 5:18 pm
I'm also a little suspicious of Susan because of all the stuff I've posted above, but I havent decided if she's just a bad player or if she's scum <3
Randi Russell 5:19 pm
I think Sincerity is town. I'm not sure about Nadia because I havent seen enough of her!
Dino Sordentini 5:19 pm
heh it took you a while to respond.
Randi Russell 5:19 pm
LOL I'm a slow typer
mmg1harriet 5:19 pm
Why do you think sincerity is town?
Dino Sordentini 5:19 pm
almost like you were contemplating what to say XD
Or you just typed slow.
that could be the case.
Randi Russell 5:19 pm
I think she's town because of the way she responded to my accusation of her.
I thought it was very emotional
Sergey 5:20 pm
She's an experienced player, though.
Randi Russell 5:20 pm
because of what she said about me having to talk to her first
mmg1harriet 5:20 pm
Sergey 5:20 pm
She'd know that'd be the town move to do.
mmg1harriet 5:20 pm
I just have a bad feeling about sincerity
Randi Russell 5:21 pm
and then her blowing up at Sergey and Eddie. It just seemed less calculated and more emotional
than anything.
mmg1harriet 5:21 pm
She hasn't contributed much of anything
Sergey 5:21 pm
Then we see it completely different, Randi.
mmg1harriet 5:21 pm
Does anyone else talk to her in private?
Besides hester?
Sergey 5:21 pm
I see someone who is very calculative in speaking and very experienced.
Randi Russell 5:22 pm
the only time i've talked to Sincerity in private was the night I posted my accuasation about her
other than that, no
mmg1harriet 5:22 pm
That to me is weird
Sergey 5:22 pm
And a few blips on the radar that show her being totally not calculative and experienced.
That, in a sense, leads me to believe it is in fact calculative.
mmg1harriet 5:22 pm
It seems like NO ONE talks to her
I personally dont see her in chat
Gil Eyal 5:23 pm
I talked to her
Scott 5:23 pm
Wait, you're saying she's experienced because she doesn't seem experienced?
Dino Sordentini 5:23 pm
sergey you said i did something similar to nadia
Sergey 5:23 pm
She says she's experienced.
Dino Sordentini 5:23 pm
that's a lie.
Sergey 5:23 pm
It is?
How so? The going off on Angelique?
Dino Sordentini 5:23 pm
I went after Angelique because she was anti-town and refused to answer questions.
Gil Eyal 5:23 pm
Oh
I have a semicase on susan
tinypaste.com/3f287f
Dino Sordentini 5:24 pm
She went afetr Angelique because of her flavor. Nadia started the fight between teh two. She semi-randomly told Angelique to jump into a well with little to no provocation
Gil Eyal 5:24 pm
It's taken from a chat log (all of the lines are me) which is why the format is weird. I just edited out the lines so it doesn't go into the 8 line limit
Dino Sordentini 5:24 pm
The little being Angelique just having an arrogant vibe.
Sergey 5:24 pm
She gave off a very arrogant vibe.
And nearly everyone was poking fun at her.
Dino Sordentini 5:24 pm
that's not enough to 'demand' that she jump in a 'well'
and then start a huge fight
if you read the logs
you'll see how random it was.
being honest, I wasn't the first one to notice this.
Sergey 5:25 pm
I was there, I believe.
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
It was brought to my attention.
Gil Eyal 5:25 pm
Hey
Randi Russell 5:25 pm
But that had nothing to do with the game, Dino
Gil Eyal 5:25 pm
People
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
exactly.
Randi Russell 5:25 pm
that was them being in characters
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
My reason for voting did
Gil Eyal 5:25 pm
Did anyone read the tinypaste I just posted?
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
hers didnt
Randi Russell 5:25 pm
I'm reading it now Gil <3
Dino Sordentini 5:25 pm
reading it now
mmg1harriet 5:25 pm
I did
Sergey 5:25 pm
Eh, my fault then, I was mistaken.
I still don't find that suspicious though.
Dino Sordentini 5:26 pm
what's mafiascum?
Hal Benjamin 5:27 pm
It seems pretty obvious to me?
Hal Benjamin 5:27 pm
Another Mafia game?
Dino Sordentini 5:27 pm
oh is it? kay.
Scott 5:27 pm
Another site to play mafia at. Not fond of it personally.
Dino Sordentini 5:27 pm
never heard of it before.
my bad, broskies.
Sergey 5:28 pm
You're suggesting this was all calculative on her part, then, Gil.
Gil Eyal 5:28 pm
Her opening thread?
That would be calculated by her regardless of her affiliation
Sergey 5:29 pm
Okay.
Sergey 5:29 pm
Does anyone know who she is suspicious of?
mmg1harriet 5:29 pm
OKay, Randi so you are not suspicious of Sincerity based on her emotional response
Do you have any other reason than that?
Gil Eyal 5:30 pm
Gil Eyal (4:39:20 PM):Hey Susan - have you spoken with John yet?Susan Appleton (4:39:30 PM):just the tiniest bit.Gil Eyal (4:39:54 PM):Do you have a read of any kind on Xaric?Susan Appleton (4:40:44 PM):not really, kid.Susan Appleton (4:40:52 PM):I think most of what we talked about was my thread.Susan Appleton (4:41:37 PM):honestly, kid, I don't know much about them, who they suspect, anything.
Gil Eyal (4:42:12 PM):What do you think about the people that defended Angelique?Susan Appleton (4:42:41 PM):I think they have a point - never seen a spy try the "Major Bitch" strategy before.
Gil Eyal (4:43:44 PM):What do you think about Nadia's reaction then?Susan Appleton (4:45:44 PM):Not... much? not sure I follow here.
Hopefully that was 8 or less
I eyeballed it
Randi Russell 5:31 pm
Yes, of course I did Harriet. It was the going invisible on AIM thing! I brought that up in chats several times and then made the post about it
Sergey 5:31 pm
That was all she gave you?
Gil Eyal 5:31 pm
No, that was all she gave me in that convo
Hester Zimmerman (mmg1hester) has entered the room. 5:31 pm
Gil Eyal 5:31 pm
I asked her about John, Xaric, people defending Angelique, and Nadia
and got . . . pretty much nothing on any of them
Only thing she did was when I asked her about Nadia
Hester Zimmerman 5:31 pm
back. who's that/
/
Sergey 5:31 pm
Susan.
Hester Zimmerman 5:31 pm
thanks.
Gil Eyal 5:31 pm
she suggested I talk to Sincerity
Sergey 5:32 pm
Gil's case on her, Hester: tinypaste.com/3f287f
Gil Eyal 5:32 pm
Gil Eyal (8:09:36 PM):Did anyone else react strangely to Nadia?Susan Appleton (8:10:32 PM):not that I know kid - I know if you're suspicious of nadia you should be talkin' to sincerity though kid.
Sergey 5:32 pm
What?
That's odd.
mmg1harriet 5:32 pm
Let me paste some of mine from susan
Hal Benjamin 5:32 pm
I have completely lost track of this conversation.
Might be as good a time as any to call it a night.
Hester Zimmerman 5:33 pm
Okay. Gil, that's what bugs me about Susan. (And Sincerity, though to a lesser extent.)
SUS.
Hal Benjamin 5:33 pm
Good night, everybody!
Hester Zimmerman 5:33 pm
(Stirring up shit.)
Gil Eyal 5:33 pm
HE'S GONE - LYNCH HIM
Hester Zimmerman 5:33 pm
Goodnight, Hal.
Gil Eyal 5:33 pm
oh wiat
Hal Benjamin 5:33 pm
Hah!
Hal Benjamin 5:33 pm
I don't lynch easily.
Buh-bye.
Hester Zimmerman 5:34 pm
Soft scotmans claim?
Hal Benjamin (mmg1hal) has left the room. 5:34 pm
Hester Zimmerman 5:34 pm
Damn, something is really wrong w/ my keyboard.
Sergey 5:34 pm
So nobody knows who Susan may vote for this round?
Scott 5:35 pm
Not offhand.
Could always ask next time she comes on.
Randi Russell 5:35 pm
I do know that she isnt voting for Sincerity. I'm looking at my convos on her and she did tell me that Sincerity was town.
Randi Russell 5:35 pm
mmg1randi (5:35:35 PM):That's why it confuses me why you told Sincerity that I was making a post listing points against her when I specifically told you that I was only making a post about the AIM debacle <3 MMG1Susan (5:36:14 PM):because I remember askin' you to make a post on her. Also thought she's town, to be honest - but I still wanted her to reply to the suspicions in public.
Victoire Pierre (mmg1victoire) has entered the room. 5:35 pm
Victoire Pierre 5:35 pm
Bonjour!
Gil Eyal 5:36 pm
Do you want the last 10 minutes of chat?
Victoire Pierre 5:36 pm
Euh, oui oui?
Randi Russell 5:36 pm
Well, actually, now that I see that, Susan says that she THOUGHT Sincerity was town.
mmg1harriet 5:38 pm
Hester, did Susan ever start a discussion with you?
About sincerity?
Hester Zimmerman 5:40 pm
Harriet, I believe so but I'll go check my chats and tell you for sure.
Bartok Presch (mmg1bartok) has entered the room. 5:40 pm
Bartok Presch 5:40 pm
Greetings lovely peoples!
Victoire Pierre 5:41 pm
Bonjour Bartok
Bartok Presch 5:41 pm
A dead room it would seem?
Victoire Pierre 5:41 pm
I think I may 'ave killed it when I walked in
Bartok Presch 5:41 pm
Well you are quite stunning
Hester Zimmerman 5:42 pm
Susan asked me if I told Rachel about my suspicions of sincerity.
Victoire Pierre 5:42 pm
Euh... Merci, Bartok.
Hester Zimmerman 5:42 pm
That was unsolicited.
Bartok Presch 5:42 pm
Why would she want to know if you had told Rachel?
mmg1harriet 5:42 pm
[19:30] mmg1harriet: Susie, you dont seem like the type of person who would have a hard time defending herself
[19:31] Susan Appleton: don't mean I won't defend myself, just means I take my sweet time writing.
[19:31] mmg1harriet: Have people been jumping on you?
[19:31] Susan Appleton: talked to Randi and I think a bit with Hester about it.
[19:32] Susan Appleton: but both those discussions were started by me.
[19:52] mmg1harriet: Did you talk to Sincerity in private chat?
[19:52] Susan Appleton: yeah.
[19:52] Susan Appleton: only supposed to show like... 8 lines.
Hester Zimmerman 5:43 pm
She also admitted that she told Sincerity I was suspicious of her.
Bartok, sorry, just saw your question.
mmg1harriet 5:44 pm
Randi you were mentioned there too
Hester Zimmerman 5:45 pm
The context of this is she asked me if I'd talked to Rachel at all yet, and asked me what my take on her was.
Susan Appleton (8:55:04 PM):question for you - did you tell her you were suspicious of anyone?Susan Appleton (8:55:11 PM):tell her a bout sincerity at all?Hester Zimmerman (8:55:15 PM):Rachel? I don't think so but I'll go check my chat log.Hester Zimmerman (8:56:05 PM):Nope.Susan Appleton (8:56:28 PM):I think...Susan Appleton (8:56:45 PM):I wish I knew she was new at this sort of thing kid.
Randi Russell 5:46 pm
Yeah, Susan started asking me questions about Sincerity, and then I started to talk to her about the questions asked of her. But she wasnt really responsive about it.
mmg1harriet 5:46 pm
Thats weird, Hester
What the hell does that mean
Bartok Presch 5:46 pm
Susan seems to ask a lot without giving much in return it would seem
mmg1harriet 5:47 pm
This is what I find odd about Susan.
Bartok Presch 5:47 pm
but a couple people are guilty of that, or worse, not even asking questions
Randi Russell 5:47 pm
Like I said, she didnt really give me answers about the questions I asked about why she told Sincerity stuff and then asked me if I talked to Sincerity
mmg1harriet 5:47 pm
She and I were questioned about the same exact thing by Hester
She never once talked to me about it
even when I tried
Dino Sordentini 5:48 pm
Did I miss anything? We have voting tomorrow and people are all suspecting different people.
It seems Sergey is pushing a sincerity lynch
sincerity is pushing a nadia lynch
gil is pushing a susan lynch
Sergey 5:48 pm
What do you mean by pushing?
Dino Sordentini 5:48 pm
proposin' foo'
Sergey 5:48 pm
Okay.
Bartok Presch 5:49 pm
awww, sergey and dino are finally getting married
Sergey 5:49 pm
Yes, I am proposing.
Gil Eyal 5:49 pm
There is a difference between proposing a lynch and pushing one, to be honest
Bartok Presch 5:49 pm
I thought that was illegal in america
Sergey 5:49 pm
That's what I was thinking, Gil.
It tripped me up a bit.
Dino Sordentini 5:49 pm
proposing to make bartok's kneecaps charms on some black dude's bling?
Gil Eyal 5:49 pm
pushing implies that you are trying to get that person lynched. I haven't voted for Susan - I wanted to propose it for discussion.
mmg1harriet 5:49 pm
I can go either way on any of these people
Sergey 5:49 pm
*smirks*
Hester Zimmerman 5:49 pm
I'm considering Susan too.
Bartok Presch 5:50 pm
Dino, you don't have to deny it so forcefully. We all know how you feel about Sergey.
Hester Zimmerman 5:50 pm
LOL...Harriet, that sounds bad.
mmg1harriet 5:50 pm
Hester did you see what she about responding to the post abot her
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
Yeah Harriet I know how you feel
Hester Zimmerman 5:50 pm
No, where was it?
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
you just wanna bandwagon one of these scummy people
but that's kinda scummy
even though it's not
Hester Zimmerman 5:50 pm
On the board? Haven't read since I left, going to look.
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
just the wording makes it seeem sooo baaad XD
mmg1harriet 5:50 pm
No
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
anyway Bartok I haven't forgotten
mmg1harriet 5:50 pm
on here
Dino Sordentini 5:50 pm
your scummy soft-claim
Hester Zimmerman 5:51 pm
Bartok softclaimed? What?
Okay, Harriet, no. When and how did she respond?
Sergey 5:51 pm
Really?
Bartok Presch (mmg1bartok) has left the room. 5:51 pm
Bartok Presch (mmg1bartok) has entered the room. 5:51 pm
Dino Sordentini 5:51 pm
Long time ago. He randomly brought up the idea of a role needing another role to activate its power in defense of Scott during his role-fiashing trip
Hester Zimmerman 5:51 pm
Oh.
mmg1harriet 5:51 pm
[19:30] mmg1harriet: Susie, you dont seem like the type of person who would have a hard time defending herself
[19:31] Susan Appleton: don't mean I won't defend myself, just means I take my sweet time writing.
[19:31] mmg1harriet: Have people been jumping on you?
[19:31] Susan Appleton: talked to Randi and I think a bit with Hester about it.
[19:32] Susan Appleton: but both those discussions were started by me.
[19:52] mmg1harriet: Did you talk to Sincerity in private chat?
[19:52] Susan Appleton: yeah.
[19:52] Susan Appleton: only supposed to show like... 8 lines.
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Dino Sordentini 5:51 pm
I pressed him into admitting a soft-claim but he said he would never do something like that with a murder coming up
Sergey 5:51 pm
And I think that Sincerity's alignment is indicative of Susan's, for me at least.
mmg1harriet 5:51 pm
There was ALOT more that she said
Exactly Sergey
Gil Eyal 5:52 pm
Wait
Wait
Dino Sordentini 5:52 pm
Sergey why are their alignments linked?
mmg1harriet 5:52 pm
If one is bad, both are
Gil Eyal 5:52 pm
I disagree
Dino Sordentini 5:52 pm
I musta missed that.
Bartok Presch 5:52 pm
I did not "randomly bring it up." I said that rarely there are such situations, and I never "admitted" a soft-claim
Gil Eyal 5:52 pm
Let me rephrase
I do not believe that if Sincerity is town
Susan is town
Sergey 5:52 pm
While I believe that Sincerity is scum, if she comes up as town, I think Susan is scum.
Dino Sordentini 5:52 pm
Bartok that's why it's soft-claiming
if you admitted it
it would be claiming
doi
Sergey why is that?
Sergey 5:52 pm
Or at least my suspicion against Susan heightens.
Bartok Presch 5:53 pm
I did not soft claim. I brought up a possibility for Scott's scenario.
Hester Zimmerman 5:53 pm
I think I'm voting Susan this round.
Sergey 5:53 pm
Because they're so linked -- Susan is causing trouble by going behind people's back, causing mischief with her, etc.
Dino Sordentini 5:53 pm
So?
mmg1harriet 5:53 pm
What do you think about that Hester?
She wrote alot more like that
Really weird
Dino Sordentini 5:53 pm
I don't see hwo the two's alignments are linked.
If they were both scum
I would hope they wouldn't align themselves with each other so prominently.
Sergey 5:54 pm
Susan is one of the few who finds Sincerity complete town.
Dino Sordentini 5:54 pm
but I wouldn't put it against them.
out of the two
I think Susan seems more scummy than Sincerity.
Hester Zimmerman 5:54 pm
@ Harriet:all of her interactions are weird. She initiates chat a lot but it's all either completely theory, or what I call shit-stirring.
Sergey 5:54 pm
Really?
Dino Sordentini 5:54 pm
but that just makes me think Sincerity is scum, more, because of that XD
Sergey 5:54 pm
I don't. I don't see enough of a case against Susan, but then again, I have my own against Sincerity and I'll go down fighting that she is scum.
Bartok Presch 5:55 pm
So the main reason Susan is suspected is because she asks odd questions, then reports to Sincerity, yes?
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
if they had roles
Sergey 5:55 pm
They aren't masons.
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
that allowed them to know each other's innocence
Sergey 5:55 pm
We've been over this.
They are not masons.
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
they don't have to be masons.
Sergey 5:55 pm
What else would they be?
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
roles in this game are custom.
Hester Zimmerman 5:55 pm
She came to me last night and complained to me about Chuck's post.
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
they could be family
Sergey 5:55 pm
You can't speculate on roles like that this early.
Hester Zimmerman 5:55 pm
So I asked her why are you bringing this to me instead of him?
Dino Sordentini 5:55 pm
or lesbien
you never know
Sergey 5:56 pm
We have no idea what they are.
Dino Sordentini 5:56 pm
I had a similar role
way back
where we'd have to vote the same
Hester Zimmerman 5:56 pm
If we had lover s in the game you think they would know who
